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most people think just stand out in this business you need to be the first one on top of the story or the person with the loudest voice of the biggest raid in truth to stand down the news business you just need to ask the right questions and demand the right answer. questions. here's what people have been saying jack to the night receptionist pull on. the only show i go out of my way to find you know what it is that really packs a punch at least yampa is the john oliver of r t america is doing the same.
apparently better than booth and i see you never heard of redacted the night president of the world bank. and the rabbit seriously sent us an email. stanton glantz only learned of this case through the documents we showed him. you know approaches that they used to attack the person doing the research on linking cured meats with cancer were the standard things they do one is to go through her work with a fine tooth comb and find every little thing they could possibly complain about and because the issues tend to be fairly technical. you know if you're a politician or if you're a reporter or highly specialized order all you hear is well this person said there was something bad and this other person said that they didn't know what they were talking about and shuttle these efforts to go after the scientists and to discredit
the scientists is a key element of a much larger strategy just gum up the entire policy making process to the point where nothing happens that translates into hundreds of billions of dollars of sales of profits so the whole game is just slow down. in the documents on dr preston martin other even more machiavellian scenarios were studied. here it was suggested that talks be held with the scientist. and hear a proposed seminar in order to lure her. to influence her and even shape the conclusions of her future studies. the common point of these documents they all come from the same lobbying firm multinational business services. already hired by philip morris to contest the
effects of passive smoking on health and headed by a certain jim toth see a master of influence. amazingly in washington the heart of american power this lobbyist is still well established. as he never answered our requests for an interview we went to see him without an appointment with our documents in hand and a hidden camera it's. yes he works here i'm going french and journalist i'm looking for. and i'm looking on the number. of the new twenty eight minutes knew i was just looking for him because i called from france by the few. months these are. the good news
american lobbyists can be welcoming. we even managed to have jim talk to you on his cell phone there. are a couple of refrain here please. jim can you hear me. i want to ask you some questions susan system not to. work. because you have the set up a strategy to discredit to work for us come here so i want you to know more about this. what. do you do not. i don't know if you're just talking about. going to work every day and i know if you do your work in congress i'm going to ask you i can say no i'm going to have to as i've been for looks and i understand you have if you
like the welcoming lobbyist you love the angry why i'm asking you to have no point enough to sleep now join each night leave you could lose your yes please please i'm ordering you out but i can't just leave now the president's announcements of. here ok do you understand that you have a tough life out here and you cannot go back to. duty it had to end like that. in the end mr trott's he did a great job well at least for the industrialist. back then he's an. the preston martin arguments were brought into the media spotlight. by this health journalist on a major national t.v. channel a few days after the publication of the famous study. let's get back to our hot dog study remember they asked the people did you eat
a hot dog they didn't ask them did you put it in a bun did you put ketchup on it did you put mustard on it now you might be saying who really cares one way or the other but that's important because it may be that it's not the hot dog at all that's causing this increased risk of cancer maybe it's the bun maybe it's the ketchup maybe it's the mustard so you have to be careful when you read these studies not to say oh this causes this. the powers that be didn't go any farther than one nine hundred seventy s. nitrites file which could have resurfaced remains locked away. you're probably wondering what susan president thinks the woman targeted by the lobby. we showed her the documents and what upset her the most was seeing that fellow scientists had played along with the industrialists. these professors will get paid a huge amount to do a review by in this case probably the american media institute i mean thousands and
thousands of dollars they probably get more from doing this kind of thing than they do from their regular jobs. seeing your name like this. my goodness a i gave a lot of people a lot of work. were you aware of this well i was aware that the processed meat community was concerned. but not aware of all the extent of this. twenty years on and she had turned the page. not of interest. that's how the public awareness of science goes it's of interest in that it's not of interest seen in all that work today but it doesn't it doesn't matter i mean it still in the literature and. in may includes people in future and it has influence people in the past and that's fine.
but another scientist involved in the case has enjoyed a much more flourishing career. a scientist paid by the american meat institute to shoot down susan preston martin's work. david clear found. today david kerrville is head of the u.s. government's nutrition program and he's invited all over the world for a scientific conferences where he gives his experts point of view. totally independent. introduced reasons why the need is in order to be healthy diet has been just. on that day he was in front speaking to scientists from around the world about meat and the link between processed meat and cancer in order to denounce backed up by a power point the climate of fear panic and even hysteria. then we know because
we were there. it was right at the start of our investigation when we barely knew about nitrites and had the need of enlightened specialists to help us. and. so there are new reviews published this year that see nitrite is not harmful and others that say it is harmful. i don't think anybody really knows. definitively what the answer is. a few months after this handshake you can learn more about the industry and doubt bells started ringing. so we took advantage of our trip to america to ask him for another interview. only this time and a lot more cards up our sleeve. do
you remember. american meat institute no never no i was interested in the scientists was interesting martin yes do you know her i know who she is i do not know her personally i do remember reading a paper on her yes for the american media institute found this and it was prepared for the american to institute. ok. this is something different yes. this was done twenty years ago roughly so. i had forgotten about that do you remember how much you were paid for this evaluation though i do not as i said it was twenty or twenty five years ago you didn't know when you were working for the american you to disprove that philip morris was opening there.
i'm not going to say yes or no at this point in time because it's more than twenty years ago did you know that the tobacco strategy moto was docked our product no i never heard that the valve close your productive. that was not mine and that was not my intent my intent was to do an evaluation. if i had read these papers and for. sound that there were not shortcomings in the papers that they would not deficiencies in the papers i don't think i would have criticized them but don't you think that your point of view would be stronger than your argument stronger if i hadn't found that you had been wrong by the american meat institute. no i don't i don't think that. would change it wouldn't change my point of view it might change your point of view that you tend to not believe what i'm saying because twenty five years ago i got some amount of
money that i don't remember. for making progress he can't remember how much but he does remember getting paid. but you have to understand that the industry is a money making business so they're very risk averse they would not fund a study that. someone proposed to them that eating hot dogs increases the risk of childhood cancer why would they fund that you know they would only fund something that says. proposers childhood cancer is prevented by eating more hotdogs or there's no relationship you know there they're not going to fund a study that. is bad for their business. well at least he's honest much of the meat industry is lobbying depends on collaboration with paid scientists and that's still how things work.
during a conference on processed meats and cancer. or french scientists confirm that. there is a reference on the subject internationally renowned expert. he speaks and acts casually and doesn't block it telling us how things work at scientific events. it is just because you create your own lawsuit speaking as it is about the need to. get to point. b. it's a deep. just comes to me. all the do. because if you soon does it will fit because if you all just wanted to. if you did so i mean. you should. meet. me you don't see fifty fifty supposed to see this so that's what it's going to be
about is what you did was a mystery she didn't put on the what. was a real irony going. there was always. was always. carrying out wholesale surveillance in c.r. you have already while i was imminent. we socialized and tried has used the social media that oil are always our lead story goes it's garbage in real. on larry king you are watching our t.v. america question more.
the mission of newsworthy is to go to the people tell their side of the story our stories are well sourced we don't hide anything from the public and i don't think the mainstream media in this country can say that i think average viewer knows that our t. america has a different perspective so that we're not hearing one echo chamber that mainstream media is constantly spewing. we're not beholden to any corporate sponsor no one tells us what to cover how long the coverage or how to say it that's the beauty of archie america. we hear both sides we hear from both sides and we question more that journalists are not letting anything get in your way to bring it home to the american people.
all the world just dates and all the news companies merely players but what kind of parties are into america playing artie america offers more artsy american personal . in many ways the news landscape is just like the field of real news fake news good actors bad actors and in the end you could never know your audience so the car company put all the world's a stage all the world's a stage all the world's a stage and we are definitely a player. a few days later professor corp a sent us some e-mails and photos of scientists he suspects of being close to the food industry. among them. two
americans he came across at a conference on meat and cancer. and nathan bryant. as we checked out these scientist profiles we discovered a document which should certainly never have been on the web. internal report issued by the american meat institute. it lays out the strategy for influencing the decisions of high profile organizations. this organization is the i r c or national agency for research on cancer little. this institution based in the old france is the world wide reference on cancer. in two thousand and six. scientists classified nitrites in the probably
carcinogenic category of products group to. and that was bad for business. so lobbyists are fighting to have this classification changed. page sixty four of the document. change in the i.r.c. nitrate nitrate classification from two to be. possibly carcinogenic. the strategy has a name i see challenge. is notably involves the two scientists we were interested in andrew wilkow sweet and nice and brian. armed with our brand new file it was time to set off to meet the meet sectors heavyweights. welcome to nashville tennessee the capital. country music and
notably the home town of johnny cash. it's here that the american meat institute is holding its annual conference. in this huge building to be precise. the meat industry in the u.s. is very very big business. all of the world's biggest players are here. smithfield number one imports with a turnover of fourteen billion dollars a year cargo the giant with thirty three billion dollars a year in crude alone. and tyson people all divisions record holder this year will mate with all of our divisions between or poultry and prepared between at thirty seven billion and forty billion dollars in revenue so it's
a snowball many very small companies. and. we checked it's over forty one billion dollars. after half an hour we spot a face in the crowd that rings a bell. that will and they're testing nibbles at every stand. that's right page ninety two of the i.r.c. challenge document with the short hair the american media institute senior vice president of public affairs janet riley. is just that she's thirty i don't know lieutenant trying to tell i'm something i'm looking for the phones to on to say tend to answer any question about seduction type found. it's is this document to do you know it i'm sorry. i'm looking through phones to. co-create and i didn't see you register and no no actually i wasn't sad to say but i have some important question that you keep your business you. so of course i have
my stuff journalist caught just a question i want you to know what do you know about the iata you know might be octet into your camera lens really know what i'm doing that it's about not touch and dancers think you know this is my study and i want to know who came so much for our interview not me why you disagree with you why you are. having been escorted outside. this is my press conference ok i've been ordered to show id we try one last time it's close do it looks like what tobacco industry did for t.k. that's your opinion that's your opinion what we're doing is providing science based here if you doubt this that our products are safe and it's fine to say right here but are you paying those scientists know you've got a camera rolling don't you. look away for such cases we always have a plan b. on the list of i.r.c.
challenge scientists there was one who agreed to see us the first on the list. andrew wilkow scheme. we had to madison wisconsin. this city in the north of the united states is home to andrew milk housekeeper and the company of hot dog king oscar meyer who we came across in the preston martin case. the scientist worked for this company for thirty years. he now teaches at the university. but he doesn't hide his proximity to the american meat lobby. presented with our eye a r.c. challenge documents he acknowledges everything. almost. so
did the needs industry paid you for this i received some compensation for my time as well as the others how much i am likely to say. i don't know if thousands tens of thousands of dollars mama small amounts are. going to have an idea you know. this running not right since to be a very big thing for industry looking for a substitute. has been attempted. and was a tall sally. something as chemically simple as nitrite. and as unique as nitrate having a substitute has not been possible to anyone's ability but if there is more risk of getting cancer don't you think it's important to try to find a solution. now as we're going to see because they do not believe that that risk
is is true and you think there is no risk at all i think the risk is. if it is indeed. on hearing that we pulled this expression. so fragile count ski the colorectal cancer the hundreds of studies on the dangers of nitrites none of it exists off you go nothing to do with it. in the united states it's thanks to scientists like neil county that the meat industry has been able to cut another notch in its belt. surprisingly in the health conscious state of california.
this imposing building is home to the state cabinet level california environmental protection agency. we have an appointment with sam dell sent deputy director for external and legislative affairs. to show us a document that doesn't exist in any other american state with a shell or not. and. so me. so this is the lists. it's a list of substances judged dangerous to man by the state of california. to do business here manufacturers are banned from using these substances or they are obliged to warn consumers and it's very restrictive because there are over eight hundred products on the list so good example that would be in the tobacco smoke entirely and there's other things like as benzene that would be something you know we have come in things like exhaust and. here we have an ounce britain has
aspirin you know it's a special note especially for pregnant women oh here's kind of an odd one but you know these like brad bird you know if you want to eat this go for it but be aware that you maybe don't want to eat it every single day so i'm doing fine try it i tried is not on the list. it's been years since nitrites has been targeted but procedures have never been seen through when we believe the chemical means the criteria for listing we post what's known as a notice of intent a list and that triggers a period in which people can submit public comments on whether it does or does not meet the criteria we review the comments before making a final decision to complete. the nitrites here are the comments that swung the scale of the seven contributions six come from food industry lobbyists. and with thirty one pages the winner is. andrew milk house.
before the interview we show sam all our documents on the t.v. i challenge and the attempts at influence. based as an avalanche of proof gathered during months of investigation he ends up taking out his cell phone to take photos. however in answering our questions he seems less inspired. we. it's their business if they think that they can. influence a decision be on the science but we want the science to the talking do you think it might happen that sometimes you are many created by the industry we. do our best. to make decisions based soley on the science
regardless of whatever. pressure or expense and persuasion may be made by any outside group ok. go for new will read examine the dangers of nitrites but not before next year. for the lobby it's a many victory time gained and profits not lost. in europe a new study on nitrite was expected in december two thousand and fifteen almost a year later it still has not been.
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